Comments on: Li Auto i8 raises controversy after lifting 8-ton truck off the ground during a crash test https://carnewschina.com/2025/08/02/li-auto-i8-raises-controversy-after-lifting-8-ton-truck-off-the-dround-during-a-crash-test/ China Auto News Mon, 04 Aug 2025 21:06:54 +0000 hourly 1 By: sy https://carnewschina.com/2025/08/02/li-auto-i8-raises-controversy-after-lifting-8-ton-truck-off-the-dround-during-a-crash-test/#comment-639116 Mon, 04 Aug 2025 21:06:54 +0000 https://carnewschina.com/?p=232802#comment-639116 In reply to Needles Balloon.

Generally, the truck drivers have a good survivability when it crashes with cars, even with the cab tilted forward in this test case. You are right on if it crashes into solid wall, the driver in the cab over engine type truck as shown in this test would be in a very bad shape as there is no crash space.

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By: Daily Beatings https://carnewschina.com/2025/08/02/li-auto-i8-raises-controversy-after-lifting-8-ton-truck-off-the-dround-during-a-crash-test/#comment-639115 Mon, 04 Aug 2025 20:56:49 +0000 https://carnewschina.com/?p=232802#comment-639115 In reply to sy.

You didn't solve for velocity with the variables given, which are 8 tonne and 2.5 tonne. You didn't think I would notice?

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By: sy https://carnewschina.com/2025/08/02/li-auto-i8-raises-controversy-after-lifting-8-ton-truck-off-the-dround-during-a-crash-test/#comment-639114 Mon, 04 Aug 2025 20:51:21 +0000 https://carnewschina.com/?p=232802#comment-639114 In reply to Daily Beatings.

The speed of the SUV was actually 60Kph and the truck was 40Kph from other sources. The combine speed is (8*40-2.6*60)/10.6=~15.5Kph in the truck direction.

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By: Daily Beatings https://carnewschina.com/2025/08/02/li-auto-i8-raises-controversy-after-lifting-8-ton-truck-off-the-dround-during-a-crash-test/#comment-639113 Mon, 04 Aug 2025 20:07:42 +0000 https://carnewschina.com/?p=232802#comment-639113 In reply to sy.

You have the variables, so do the math.

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By: sy https://carnewschina.com/2025/08/02/li-auto-i8-raises-controversy-after-lifting-8-ton-truck-off-the-dround-during-a-crash-test/#comment-639104 Mon, 04 Aug 2025 12:34:10 +0000 https://carnewschina.com/?p=232802#comment-639104 In reply to Daily Beatings.

Need to use momentum conservation, MV-mv=(M+m)v'

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By: Daily Beatings https://carnewschina.com/2025/08/02/li-auto-i8-raises-controversy-after-lifting-8-ton-truck-off-the-dround-during-a-crash-test/#comment-639061 Sat, 02 Aug 2025 14:58:07 +0000 https://carnewschina.com/?p=232802#comment-639061 In reply to Needles Balloon.

We have the formula (kinetic energy = 1/2 * mass * velocity²) and we have the variables (8 tonne versus 2.5 tonne), so let's plug them in.

If we assume the truck was going 25 KPH (6.94444 meters per second) then the we have a kinetic energy of 192,901 Joules.
Substitute mass (2.5 tonne) and solve for velocity give us a speed of 12.42 meters per second or approximately 45 KPH.

For a combined speed of 100 KPH based on the above calculation the speed of the truck was approximately 36 KPH and the speed of the vehicle was approximately 64 KPH. We can easily conclude this crash test is completely misleading.

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By: JohnW https://carnewschina.com/2025/08/02/li-auto-i8-raises-controversy-after-lifting-8-ton-truck-off-the-dround-during-a-crash-test/#comment-639050 Sat, 02 Aug 2025 02:13:53 +0000 https://carnewschina.com/?p=232802#comment-639050 In reply to Handi Suyadi.

The objections seem contrived. How many potential buyers will be put off by this test?

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By: Liu Miao https://carnewschina.com/2025/08/02/li-auto-i8-raises-controversy-after-lifting-8-ton-truck-off-the-dround-during-a-crash-test/#comment-639046 Fri, 01 Aug 2025 23:50:25 +0000 https://carnewschina.com/?p=232802#comment-639046 In reply to Needles Balloon.

Hi Needles, you are right, 100 km/h is the relative speed. I’ve updated the article. Thank you very much for your comments.

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By: Handi Suyadi https://carnewschina.com/2025/08/02/li-auto-i8-raises-controversy-after-lifting-8-ton-truck-off-the-dround-during-a-crash-test/#comment-639045 Fri, 01 Aug 2025 23:45:07 +0000 https://carnewschina.com/?p=232802#comment-639045 Such a bad news for Li Auto. After previously some newer Li Auto models underperformed on the market due to have polarizing exterior design language (albeit the design language look very original for Chinese car brand standard), now Li Auto caught flak for over marketing controversy.

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By: Needles Balloon https://carnewschina.com/2025/08/02/li-auto-i8-raises-controversy-after-lifting-8-ton-truck-off-the-dround-during-a-crash-test/#comment-639044 Fri, 01 Aug 2025 23:38:55 +0000 https://carnewschina.com/?p=232802#comment-639044 In reply to Needles Balloon.

Also in defense of the truck, I doubt any country's trucks have good crash survivability since they rely solely on their own weight and high seating position to stay safe (maybe American ones incidentally have more crumple zone) because most safety tests would be futile. The cab tilting forward probably reduces the G-forces somewhat in this case against cars, but no driver could survive a crash into a high and solid wall.

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